Marathon Appeals Revisited: The week at the Supreme Court

by Marsha Hunter

You may have over-dosed on the Affordable Health Care arguments at the Supreme Court last week, but look at the bright side: we can now see them with at least some perspective, with the news frenzy dying down. I won’t go into much detail, but I want to include links to audio and transcripts so you can listen, and read, for yourself.

I’ve complained elsewhere that there is no video yet in the Supreme Court. It is a real shame we did not have a chance to watch these arguments. We’ve had to rely on reports from those few in the room about how General Verrilli looked when he was thirsty, or how Paul Clement gestured, or how annoyed certain justices were with different parts of the many hours of argument. Other courts are accommodating video feeds, and the Supreme Court can, too. In fact, we should have had video long before now. We the People have a right to see and not just hear. And think how much everyone could learn about thinking on one’s feet!

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Adrenaline Rush: Talking to the Supreme Court

by Marsha Hunter

The battle of the titans is on at the Supreme Court this week. Star advocates and celebrity justices argue behind closed doors, viewed by a lucky few in person. The politics of the health care hearings is hard to avoid, whether you turn on a TV, a radio, click into a news source, or find a newspaper at your hotel room door. Without video to show us what is happening (and video is long overdue at the Court), we rely on journalists and bloggers, or audio and transcripts. Audio from the courtroom allows us to hear through the politics and think about how the arguments unfold. What can we hear?

On Monday, we heard three advocates, Robert A. Long, Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli, Jr., and Gregory G. Katsas, debate the relevance of the Anti-Injunction Act. The first to speak, Mr. Long, was interrupted in the third paragraph of his initial statement after 90 seconds. That means he had a minute and a half to get his heart rate down and manage his adrenaline flow before Justice Scalia said, “Well, that depends…..”

Last week’s news reported on the amount of  preparation going on in Washington for these arguments. One implied that we were running out of lawyers willing to impersonate Supreme Court justices because so many moots were scheduled. Here are some of Monday’s real questions that those simulations were preparing for. They were just the type of inquiry to keep an advocate’s heart racing:

  • What kinds of cases do you imagine that courts will hear, on what grounds?
  • Are you asking us to overrule the Davis case?
  • Now, doesn’t that sound like an equitable exception to the Anti-Injunction Act?
  • I’m trying to get you to focus on that kind of argument.
  • Are you following me?
  • Isn’t the fairer statement…..
  • Doesn’t that just prove that…..

All three advocates stood their ground, answered succinctly or in detail when appropriate, and kept multiple questions in mind as they answered. They looped back to their own themes, occasionally with a polite apology about repeating themselves. It proved a decent warm-up for General Verrilli, who had two more grueling days ahead of him. Just listening to voices, his was the clearest, with the most air under the sound. His voice is a resonant baritone, with a pleasing quality.

When listening to arguments, pay special attention to the rate of speech of both advocates and justices. The ability to speak in deliberate phrases, without rushing, is the key to thinking and speaking in the moment.

For Monday’s audio, go to:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio_detail.aspx?argument=11-398-Monday

News reports after Tuesday’s arguments stated that General Verilli had sounded nervous. I was surprised, as he seemed confident on Monday. But sure enough, his first statement betrays a problem when listening to the audio that is not apparent in the transcript. Here is the transcript, with my observations inserted:

GENERAL VERRILLI: Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court:
The Affordable Care Act addresses a fundamental and enduring problem in our health care system and our economy. Insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country. COUGHS TWICE, THEN REPEATS THE LAST SENTENCE, SO HE MUST BE READING. Insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country. For most Americans, for more than 80 percent of Americans, the UH insurance system does provide effective UH access. DRINKS WATER, AND WE CAN HEAR THE ICE CUBES TINKLE IN THE GLASS Excuse me. AS A LISTENER, I AM NOW BECOMING UNCOMFORTABLE, WONDERING WHAT IS WRONG.
But for more than 40 million Americans who do not have access to health insurance either through their employer or through government programs such as Medicare or Medicaid, BIG, AUDIBLE BREATH, the system does not work. Those individuals must resort to the individual market, and that market does not provide affordable health insurance. It does not do so because COUGHS SMALL STUTTER it — because the UH multibillion dollar subsidies that are available for the -UH the UH SOMETHING IN HIS TONE OF VOICE SIGNALS HE IS STRUGGLING, THAT HE IS STILL NOT OK employer market are not available in the individual market. It does not do so because ERISA and HIPAA regulations that preclude — UH that preclude UH discrimination against people based on their medical history do not apply in the individual market. That is an economic problem. And it begets another economic problem.

Here, at 1:44, Scalia asks the first question, in a quiet voice.

What happened to General Verrilli during that first minute and forty-five seconds? I’m guessing that he had “cotton mouth,” that odious condition resulting from adrenaline’s shutting down of the digestive system and robbing the speaker of saliva. It makes people clear their throats, need a drink of water, cough—all at the most important moment, the first-impression beginnings. In most public speaking situations, you can recover, but at the Supreme Court, your questioners may smell blood in the water. They will probably attack before you completely recover.

What do you think? Did General Verrilli recover sufficiently to argue effectively? How would you guard against this hazard?

For Tuesdays’ arguments:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio_detail.aspx?argument=11-398-Tuesday

Achille’s Heel of Public Speaking: Thinking and Speaking, Fast and Slow

by Brian K. Johnson

A recent email from a colleague included a request for my help with what she described as her “Achilles’ heel.” She bemoaned the fact that, despite over-preparing for presentations, including conference calls with authority figures, she works herself into a frenzy, becomes tongue-tied, and often loses her train of thought. An Achilles’ heel is defined as “a fatal weakness despite overall strength.” While discomfort with public speaking is not a fatal weakness, (although, metaphorically, nervous speakers often feel as if “I’m dying up here!”) many lawyers we work with recognize that an inability to speak comfortably, credibly, and fluently under pressure is a weakness, despite their overall strengths as smart, competent professionals.

How do you heal the Achilles heel of public speaking?

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Showing Listeners You Are Nervous

by Brian K. Johnson

On Friday, March 2, the much-anticipated mystery witness took the stand in the case against Rutgers student Dharun Ravi, accused of using his dorm room webcam to spy on his gay roommate, Tyler Clementi. Soon afterward Clementi committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge. Ravi is accused of bias intimidation, invasion of privacy, and witness tampering.

Even after appearing, the mystery witness remained anonymous because the judge insisted on protecting his identity, as he is considered a victim. Known only by the initials M.B, he was intimate with Clementi in his dorm room during the alleged spying. To shield his identity, the courtroom video of his testimony is silent. The camera focuses only on his hands in his lap. Yet his hands are remarkably revealing, not about who he is, but how he is feeling.

The commentator observes, “I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone be so nervous.” What can this unusual video of his hands reveal about his extreme state of nervousness?

More generally, what do nervous people do – or not do – with their hands, whether testifying or advocating in the courtroom? They don’t gesture freely.

Count the number of gesture impulses revealed by the video clips of M.B.’s hands. A gesture impulse is a partial, tentative movement that is unintentionally inhibited or restrained. These motions are not just random fidgets; they are directly connected to word emphasis.

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More About Practice for Trial and Appeals

My last post was about practice. Here are some links to video and articles featuring  practitioners who are at the top of their game.

Paul Clement, the lawyer who has been in front of the U.S. Supreme Court almost more than any living attorney, is notoriously well-prepared. To read more about his style, here is a profile of Mr. Clement from the New York Times.

David Boies, as famously super-prepared as Clement, talks about preparing for cross-examination in this video on American Lawyer.

And as always, find the best and those who aspire to join them as they argue before the celebrity panel at the U.S. Supreme Court. Listen HERE.